Dual monitor support

Discussion:

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Mickey Mouse

2008-06-27 23:43:56 UTC

I'm looking for a newsgroup which might help me with a question. This
appears to be the only group I can find.
Since I'm here I'll ask anyway.
I have a Pavilion a6460a
It appears to have a Geforce 8500 GT 512mb Video card.

512 mb GDDR2 memory
I/O Ports HDMI, Dual Link DVI, S Video

There is no Analog connection.
I need to run two monitors, 1 digital and 1 analog.

Will the Dual Link DVI with some kind of an adaptor run these two monitors?
1 NO?
2 Inadvisable? (I don't know what "Dual Link means")
3 I need to change my video card

Apologies, if this is the wrong newsgroup.

Mickey

Mickey Mouse

2008-06-28 16:47:31 UTC

Permalink

Please don't reply, Got my answer.

Mickey

Post by Mickey Mouse
I'm looking for a newsgroup which might help me with a question. This
appears to be the only group I can find.
Since I'm here I'll ask anyway.
I have a Pavilion a6460a
It appears to have a Geforce 8500 GT 512mb Video card.
512 mb GDDR2 memory
I/O Ports HDMI, Dual Link DVI, S Video
There is no Analog connection.
I need to run two monitors, 1 digital and 1 analog.
Will the Dual Link DVI with some kind of an adaptor run these two monitors?
1 NO?
2 Inadvisable? (I don't know what "Dual Link means")
3 I need to change my video card
Apologies, if this is the wrong newsgroup.
Mickey

Gary S. Terhune

2008-06-28 21:11:36 UTC

Permalink

Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Mickey Mouse

2008-06-28 23:49:14 UTC

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Hello Gary,
Well I didn't find another newsgroup although I got some help from
"microsoft.public.windowsxp.video", although I'm running Vista.
Anyway, I've been advised that I can run my digital monitor on the DVI
plug as normal AND my analog monitor on the HDMI plug on the card VIA
adaptors.
I'm now going to a swap meet and I'll ask there before I buy a new card or
adaptors.
I'm just wondering now if anyone else has bought a system or video card with
only
a DVI connection and no analog plug.

Mickey

I'll also be calling HP on Monday (tomorrow)

Cheers

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Gary S. Terhune

2008-06-29 20:44:11 UTC

Permalink

So, you don't really know if you found a solution or not, yet. I've looked
around for an HDMI to VGA converter and haven't found one. Looks to me like
it would cost nearly as much as simply getting another digital monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HCBXY?smid=A2UWYMOBBYEE7C&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn

And, yes, since you purchased it as part of an HP machine, you need to
contact HP for support, not NVIDIA.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Hello Gary,
Well I didn't find another newsgroup although I got some help from
"microsoft.public.windowsxp.video", although I'm running Vista.
Anyway, I've been advised that I can run my digital monitor on the DVI
plug as normal AND my analog monitor on the HDMI plug on the card VIA
adaptors.
I'm now going to a swap meet and I'll ask there before I buy a new card or
adaptors.
I'm just wondering now if anyone else has bought a system or video card
with only
a DVI connection and no analog plug.
Mickey
I'll also be calling HP on Monday (tomorrow)
Cheers

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Mickey Mouse

2008-06-30 01:23:25 UTC

Permalink

Hey Gary, how you Don't?
HDMI to VGA adaptors are actually available, I saw them at a swap meet
yesterday although I didn't enquire about the price as I decided to purchase
a new card. However I do doubt very much that they are expensive.
And for anyone interested, the Final answer to my question direct this
morning from HP Support (by telephone) is.
A second VGA monitor can be connected to the HDMI socket on the card
allowing you to run two monitors. So there you have it, straight from HP!

Mickey

Post by Gary S. Terhune
So, you don't really know if you found a solution or not, yet. I've looked
around for an HDMI to VGA converter and haven't found one. Looks to me
like it would cost nearly as much as simply getting another digital
monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HCBXY?smid=A2UWYMOBBYEE7C&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn
And, yes, since you purchased it as part of an HP machine, you need to
contact HP for support, not NVIDIA.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Mickey Mouse

2008-06-30 02:29:08 UTC

Permalink

Hey Gary,
I just had a look at that Amazon site.
$199 - Wow! Is that US or American Dollars?
Now take a look at this site
They got them from $29.95 to Hundreds AUS.

Mickey.

http://www.radioparts.com.au/home.aspx

Post by Mickey Mouse
Hey Gary, how you Don't?
HDMI to VGA adaptors are actually available, I saw them at a swap meet
yesterday although I didn't enquire about the price as I decided to
purchase a new card. However I do doubt very much that they are
expensive.
And for anyone interested, the Final answer to my question direct this
morning from HP Support (by telephone) is.
A second VGA monitor can be connected to the HDMI socket on the card
allowing you to run two monitors. So there you have it, straight from HP!
Mickey

Post by Gary S. Terhune
So, you don't really know if you found a solution or not, yet. I've
looked around for an HDMI to VGA converter and haven't found one. Looks
to me like it would cost nearly as much as simply getting another digital
monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HCBXY?smid=A2UWYMOBBYEE7C&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn
And, yes, since you purchased it as part of an HP machine, you need to
contact HP for support, not NVIDIA.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Post by Mickey Mouse
I'm looking for a newsgroup which might help me with a question.
This
appears to be the only group I can find.
Since I'm here I'll ask anyway.
I have a Pavilion a6460a
It appears to have a Geforce 8500 GT 512mb Video card.
512 mb GDDR2 memory
I/O Ports HDMI, Dual Link DVI, S Video
There is no Analog connection.
I need to run two monitors, 1 digital and 1 analog.
Will the Dual Link DVI with some kind of an adaptor run these two monitors?
1 NO?
2 Inadvisable? (I don't know what "Dual Link means")
3 I need to change my video card
Apologies, if this is the wrong newsgroup.
Mickey

Gary S. Terhune

2008-06-30 05:45:12 UTC

Permalink

Hey, I did more than an hour of research on the topic. Doesn't mean I didn't
miss something, but... Your link shows me nothing, and a search of the site
for the terms HDMI + VGA produced zero results. Just searching on HDMI gave
me a long list, but it's in no particular order and I don't feel like
browsing them all. How about you give me a link to that cheap one (or a few
of them.) I'd like to see their specs and compare them to what I've learned
on the topic.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Hey Gary,
I just had a look at that Amazon site.
$199 - Wow! Is that US or American Dollars?
Now take a look at this site
They got them from $29.95 to Hundreds AUS.
Mickey.
http://www.radioparts.com.au/home.aspx

Post by Gary S. Terhune
So, you don't really know if you found a solution or not, yet. I've
looked around for an HDMI to VGA converter and haven't found one. Looks
to me like it would cost nearly as much as simply getting another
digital monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HCBXY?smid=A2UWYMOBBYEE7C&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn
And, yes, since you purchased it as part of an HP machine, you need to
contact HP for support, not NVIDIA.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Post by Mickey Mouse
I'm looking for a newsgroup which might help me with a question.
This
appears to be the only group I can find.
Since I'm here I'll ask anyway.
I have a Pavilion a6460a
It appears to have a Geforce 8500 GT 512mb Video card.
512 mb GDDR2 memory
I/O Ports HDMI, Dual Link DVI, S Video
There is no Analog connection.
I need to run two monitors, 1 digital and 1 analog.
Will the Dual Link DVI with some kind of an adaptor run these two monitors?
1 NO?
2 Inadvisable? (I don't know what "Dual Link means")
3 I need to change my video card
Apologies, if this is the wrong newsgroup.
Mickey

Mickey Mouse

2008-06-30 07:10:39 UTC

Permalink

Hey Gary,
There you go
As I was told by Radio Parts the price can very according to quality and get
very expensive indeed. Anyway have a look.

http://www.radioparts.com.au/ProdSearch.aspx?Search=HDMI%20to%20DVI

Mickey

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Hey, I did more than an hour of research on the topic. Doesn't mean I
didn't miss something, but... Your link shows me nothing, and a search of
the site for the terms HDMI + VGA produced zero results. Just searching on
HDMI gave me a long list, but it's in no particular order and I don't feel
like browsing them all. How about you give me a link to that cheap one (or
a few of them.) I'd like to see their specs and compare them to what I've
learned on the topic.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
So, you don't really know if you found a solution or not, yet. I've
looked around for an HDMI to VGA converter and haven't found one. Looks
to me like it would cost nearly as much as simply getting another
digital monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HCBXY?smid=A2UWYMOBBYEE7C&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn
And, yes, since you purchased it as part of an HP machine, you need to
contact HP for support, not NVIDIA.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Post by Mickey Mouse
I'm looking for a newsgroup which might help me with a question.
This
appears to be the only group I can find.
Since I'm here I'll ask anyway.
I have a Pavilion a6460a
It appears to have a Geforce 8500 GT 512mb Video card.
512 mb GDDR2 memory
I/O Ports HDMI, Dual Link DVI, S Video
There is no Analog connection.
I need to run two monitors, 1 digital and 1 analog.
Will the Dual Link DVI with some kind of an adaptor run these two monitors?
1 NO?
2 Inadvisable? (I don't know what "Dual Link means")
3 I need to change my video card
Apologies, if this is the wrong newsgroup.
Mickey

Gary S. Terhune

2008-06-30 09:08:04 UTC

Permalink

1. None of those are HDMI > VGA adapters.

2. You might be able to daisy-chain adapters HDMI to DVI-I to VGA, but not
HDMI to DVI-D to VGA. You can't go from DVI-D to VGA.

3. The big issue is the HDCP component of HDMI, but how that works, I didn't
read up on much, except that it's the DRM portion of the signal. I *believe*
that must be filtered out before the signal can be used by any other
non-HDMI device. Perhaps that's what an HDMI to DVI-I adapter does.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Hey Gary,
There you go
As I was told by Radio Parts the price can very according to quality and get
very expensive indeed. Anyway have a look.
http://www.radioparts.com.au/ProdSearch.aspx?Search=HDMI%20to%20DVI
Mickey

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Hey, I did more than an hour of research on the topic. Doesn't mean I
didn't miss something, but... Your link shows me nothing, and a search of
the site for the terms HDMI + VGA produced zero results. Just searching
on HDMI gave me a long list, but it's in no particular order and I don't
feel like browsing them all. How about you give me a link to that cheap
one (or a few of them.) I'd like to see their specs and compare them to
what I've learned on the topic.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
So, you don't really know if you found a solution or not, yet. I've
looked around for an HDMI to VGA converter and haven't found one.
Looks to me like it would cost nearly as much as simply getting
another digital monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HCBXY?smid=A2UWYMOBBYEE7C&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn
And, yes, since you purchased it as part of an HP machine, you need to
contact HP for support, not NVIDIA.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Post by Mickey Mouse
I'm looking for a newsgroup which might help me with a question.
This
appears to be the only group I can find.
Since I'm here I'll ask anyway.
I have a Pavilion a6460a
It appears to have a Geforce 8500 GT 512mb Video card.
512 mb GDDR2 memory
I/O Ports HDMI, Dual Link DVI, S Video
There is no Analog connection.
I need to run two monitors, 1 digital and 1 analog.
Will the Dual Link DVI with some kind of an adaptor run these two monitors?
1 NO?
2 Inadvisable? (I don't know what "Dual Link means")
3 I need to change my video card
Apologies, if this is the wrong newsgroup.
Mickey

Mickey Mouse

2008-06-30 12:43:13 UTC

Permalink

-----------HDMI>DVI > < DVI<VGA-----------------------
Your absolutely right.

Mickey

Post by Gary S. Terhune
1. None of those are HDMI > VGA adapters.
2. You might be able to daisy-chain adapters HDMI to DVI-I to VGA, but not
HDMI to DVI-D to VGA. You can't go from DVI-D to VGA.
3. The big issue is the HDCP component of HDMI, but how that works, I
didn't read up on much, except that it's the DRM portion of the signal. I
*believe* that must be filtered out before the signal can be used by any
other non-HDMI device. Perhaps that's what an HDMI to DVI-I adapter does.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Hey, I did more than an hour of research on the topic. Doesn't mean I
didn't miss something, but... Your link shows me nothing, and a search
of the site for the terms HDMI + VGA produced zero results. Just
searching on HDMI gave me a long list, but it's in no particular order
and I don't feel like browsing them all. How about you give me a link to
that cheap one (or a few of them.) I'd like to see their specs and
compare them to what I've learned on the topic.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
So, you don't really know if you found a solution or not, yet. I've
looked around for an HDMI to VGA converter and haven't found one.
Looks to me like it would cost nearly as much as simply getting
another digital monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HCBXY?smid=A2UWYMOBBYEE7C&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn
And, yes, since you purchased it as part of an HP machine, you need
to contact HP for support, not NVIDIA.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Care to share?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Mickey Mouse
Please don't reply, Got my answer.
Mickey

Post by Mickey Mouse
I'm looking for a newsgroup which might help me with a question.
This
appears to be the only group I can find.
Since I'm here I'll ask anyway.
I have a Pavilion a6460a
It appears to have a Geforce 8500 GT 512mb Video card.
512 mb GDDR2 memory
I/O Ports HDMI, Dual Link DVI, S Video
There is no Analog connection.
I need to run two monitors, 1 digital and 1 analog.
Will the Dual Link DVI with some kind of an adaptor run these two
monitors?
1 NO?
2 Inadvisable? (I don't know what "Dual Link means")
3 I need to change my video card
Apologies, if this is the wrong newsgroup.
Mickey